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    • CommentAuthorkamran
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2009 edited
     
    Hello all,
    I need to make tappet lifer and wondering if it is better to go with round head or flat head? The cams have sharp edges so I haven’t file them to round edges so I’m thinking to go with round head tappets? Any advantages or disadvantages?
    By the way is that a correct terminology to use (round head tappet)?
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    The flat bottom is fine if you have adaquate flank radius. With a curved flank, the edge of the flat bottom will not dig into the lobe. There is also a minimum diameter for the flat bottom.

    If you have a flat flank, you might want to go with a ball end lifter or a roller lifter.
    • CommentAuthordavid
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2009
     
    I have been working on a new vertical design, .7 bore with OHV, and worked on cam followers. Lots of drawings rotating the cam a few degrees and see how the parts work together.
    The first design was one cam with two toggle followers.
    Next was a cam with flat sides that would be milled. A flat follower would have a corner impacting the flat flank of the cam. This needs a round follower or a roller. Tis design is simplest to make and has a rapid rise. As I look at it there seem to be a lot of side forces as well.
    I switched to a turned cam with all surfaces curved. I was surprised at how large the surface of the follower needed to be so that it always extended past the curve of the cam. As I changed the radius of the flank the dynamics of the cam and the follower change.
    My cam is to be made from .500 diameter stock and have a lift of .045 but the followers need to be .220 diameter. My initial sketch had the cams .09 wide and the followers .125 dia. If I had built it, the cam rise would hit the edge of the follower and likely jam or damage one part.
    If anyone is interested in details let me know
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    There is a cam lift calculator over at model engine news that includes the lifter diameter.

    His calc says with your lift base circle and a .5 inch flank your follower needs to be only .150

    If you think the flank radius changes things, change the lift and watch what happens.
    • CommentAuthordavid
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2009
     
    A great site that needs some exploring ->link<- .
    Here is a link to the calculator Steve mentions ->link<-
    If you have a favorite site share it and they can be added to the list of links.
    Thanks Steve.
    • CommentAuthorkamran
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2009
     
    Thanks all for the info.
    When you follow a plan none of these are questionable but now that I’m designing my own engine, every piece is questionable, therefore progress is slow.
    • CommentAuthorjay rich
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2009
     
    david i know back in the 60s jeep had a over head cam also the had one cam per cylinder bank and steve that is a great calculator ....jay
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    kamran, if you are interested i can send you [elements of cam design] how to plan and produce simple but good cams, by E.T.WESTBURY,
    MODELENGINENEWS.ORG/camcalc that STEVE mantioned is excellent to get the tappet dia if you can input the 4 mandatory measurements. contact me at stivs@maltanet.net.
    • CommentAuthormiller
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2010
     
    I personally think that roller lifters are the best because there is very little friction.